particular community than are set at chicago, there was a park called gil part and it was overgrown nevada shrubbery and is a big drug dealing center. dealers would go when and hang out in the shrubbery and then there were a drive-by shootings associated. the residents came and said we can't live with this. what are they going to do? together with the police, using the police know how, they were able to identify here are the conditions that are allowing these drug dealers to be here. they have this cover. there's no police. the police and citizens when in every landscaper park. the police committed to doing walk-throughs of the part and residents who lived in the housing projects committed to calling him when they saw suspicious activity of the park. so as a result, crime and a park dropped and so that's a great example of something that would've never happened if you didn't involve the community and police officers talking together. i co-opt their premises and click of the dialogue and deliberation expert. she knows about different democratic processes. she is the town moderator for a tow